Subject	That's the point, if a person sets out to mass produce
Posted by	HighPsi (NorCal) on June 18, 2012 at 5:25 PM
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In Reply To	That is an option, but will be bad for the few who buy the posted by CmyZ on June 18, 2012 at 02:56 PM
Message	something, either from savings or a debenture, the price represents quite a few factors, which include r&d, oppotunity cost(s), projections for breakeven, not to mention the standard start-up costs. If a products lifecycle is severly diminshed because of illegal competition, which unfairly lowers the cost for barriers to entry, the breakeven pricing will reflect this, and for a products' cost to be recouped in a shorter time period, pricing will have to be increased as well. This adds a question prior to starting the project, "will there be enough demand at that price to warrant production?" Needless to say, if there is a small potential for profits to be obtained, and even smaller when a company has no legal recource from unscrupulous companies, what is the incentive to innovate?
Follow Ups	Now, I think we can all say... This is now out of hand... - ZinnZ32 13:04:00 06/18/12 dang, Escort fascia replica with CF lip (n/m) - ali300zx 13:09:02 06/18/12 Is there any way to distinguish the original from the copy? - RobZ32 22:51:58 06/18/12 Sad but expected... (n/m) - Barry (NJ) 13:09:37 06/18/12 Weak.. (n/m) - Draker (Eugene, OR) 13:10:36 06/18/12 AMS has copied themselves. Perhaps the website has become - zgene4 13:13:46 06/18/12 +1 (n/m) - Ahmed (Chicago) 14:29:41 06/18/12 Nothing is safe. (n/m) - Evan_Wright (Ca) 13:14:46 06/18/12 this was the last straw? - Adam (NoVA) 13:18:02 06/18/12 "in development for over a year"........lol (n/m) - LJZTT 13:18:20 06/18/12 Shipping back and forth from China is slow. (n/m) - zgene4 13:24:46 06/18/12 yes that is their R&D lead time shipping to and from China. - CmyZ 14:35:19 06/18/12 Yeah lets send Ash and BDE and MSP all over to China... - blackomega 09:00:40 06/19/12 China??? No thanks... - LitlElvis 12:49:34 06/19/12 Truth. 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(n/m) - TeddyZ(SFC) 02:32:47 06/20/12 John, you're a fool. - Aqualung 09:12:54 06/20/12 OH YEAH, 3zc is a real trueblue pack of quality-hounds and - LJZTT 16:11:46 06/19/12 Sometimes I hate being right. (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 14:04:59 06/18/12 Now? More like has LONG been out of hand. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 14:18:16 06/18/12 Redundant. - ZinnZ32 14:26:40 06/18/12 whatchutalkinaboutwillis? (n/m) - zgene4 15:11:10 06/18/12 Huh? (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 16:37:40 06/18/12 Now, I wonder how long it will take Z1 to Stock those P.O.S. (n/m) - Zski 14:25:43 06/18/12 good question - vulcanrush 14:43:58 06/18/12 Free enterprise, so little to do about it. Unless you beat - CmyZ 14:36:38 06/18/12 The other option is people can stop innovating for this - HighPsi (NorCal) 14:46:59 06/18/12 That is an option, but will be bad for the few who buy the - CmyZ 14:56:07 06/18/12 ya think? (n/m) - aliaZ 16:44:20 06/18/12 That's the point, if a person sets out to mass produce - HighPsi (NorCal) 17:25:46 06/18/12 I can choose not to buy them (n/m) - dpjax 17:10:01 06/18/12 funny, they don't even understand the product... - vorpalZ 14:36:42 06/18/12 Yeah, I noticed the same thing. The description says - ForceFedTT (SoCal) 16:37:00 06/18/12 I really hope people open their eyes and see what happening - RoyaltyPerformance 15:33:00 06/18/12 I've got one AMS part in the garage.That junk has got to go. - Antihero 16:08:27 06/18/12 It was only time. I will say, however, that the cores MIGHT - black300zx 16:22:36 06/18/12 CR Racing / eBay intercoolers have those too. - dogpile 17:14:42 06/18/12 we need to start feeding them crap parts - BlackholeZ 16:49:30 06/18/12 Or their messed up offset water pump pulley? (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 16:51:55 06/18/12 Werd. (n/m) - ForceFedTT (SoCal) 16:53:28 06/18/12 2nd. (n/m) - Spongerider :) 16:57:39 06/18/12 now now, that was explained... sort of. (n/m) - vorpalZ 17:11:25 06/18/12 They forgot about the play at the end of a tape measure - michaell32 17:32:31 06/18/12 The play at the end of a tape measure is deliberate. - Evan(CA) 18:17:12 06/18/12 That only works if you know how to use the tape measure (n/m) - ChrisZTT(Sacto, CA) 19:49:28 06/18/12 Re: Now, I think we can all say... This is now out of hand... - Tech@EPR 17:24:53 06/18/12 Laziness and greed plus no morals. Thats the only answer. (n/m) - michaell32 17:34:10 06/18/12 not really, that is less than half the answer - LJZTT 04:01:02 06/19/12 Yeah, that was pretty obvious. (n/m) - ForceFedTT (SoCal) 18:14:23 06/18/12 I'm guessing it's for 2 reasons. - rojoloco (VA Beach) 13:41:22 06/19/12 Has anyone tried to sue these guys? - Schmeal 19:32:37 06/18/12 In what little I know, the patent has to be filed in the - PiotrC70 19:37:46 06/18/12 So how come nobody patents their ideas in atleast the US? - Schmeal 19:46:44 06/18/12 Patents cost a lot don't they? - ZinnZ32 21:08:59 06/18/12 why don't you research the topic and tell us? - LJZTT 17:50:26 06/19/12 false - Adam (NoVA) 20:00:45 06/18/12 Your search for patent returned 514 hits in 8.015 seconds (n/m) - Adam (NoVA) 19:59:19 06/18/12 Is this AMS the same AMS that made the alpha omega GTR? (n/m) - Lumpydonut 19:42:56 06/18/12 No thats AMS from chicago (n/m) - michaell32 19:44:31 06/18/12 yup. they even ripped of the name. (n/m) - Antihero 13:08:43 06/19/12 Maybe they have this - jlag 20:23:36 06/18/12 Er, no. They have this: - vorpalZ 20:46:45 06/18/12 Must be an HP brand... Huwok Pangyang (n/m) - ZinnZ32 21:06:01 06/18/12 Or this... - BigTDogg (MA) 21:08:54 06/18/12 Amazed, not not shocked that they continue to do this. (n/m) - zfreak(Dallas) 21:53:41 06/18/12 Re: Now, I think we can all say... This is now out of hand... - yellowzx 23:07:13 06/18/12 Buy 10 sets and undercut AMS. LOL. (n/m) - michaell32 23:11:19 06/18/12 They will probably show up on Ebay soon. (n/m) - Mr.Stacy 05:16:09 06/19/12 prolly has a shitty core - i'd rather give my business to - ztunerz 00:29:50 06/19/12 Another piece of junk... - SimaYi 00:54:10 06/19/12 i don't advocate violence, but... - TeddyZ(SFC) 06:51:04 06/19/12 Keep a long screwdriver in your car and if you see his - michaell32 07:04:57 06/19/12 A screwdriver?? 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Those pictures are years old. - Antihero 13:10:55 06/19/12 Especially considering those are Powertrix ducts... yeah - BigTDogg (MA) 14:10:01 06/19/12 Already posted on 3ZC along with the following link in - PiotrC70 18:00:58 06/19/12 At this point I think it's safe to say that there are no - ArubaDave 08:42:14 06/19/12 I know for a fact that new parts have been developed - sdhsbaseball 11:12:21 06/19/12 Good Grief, how long can an unimportant thread go on? - zellamay 09:41:40 06/19/12 ...yet you took the time to write that comment. (n/m) - TheMarlin 11:51:41 06/19/12 Do you think a congressman would do anything? - michaell32 11:56:50 06/19/12 As a therapist, you should appreciate group. (n/m) - Ted (92TT) 16:30:38 06/19/12 You are right, sometimes we just need to vent. (n/m) - zellamay 18:21:27 06/19/12 for awareness. - ZiNnYc 23:44:25 06/19/12 Mission spoiler is available on there too.... - HK'S Z 17:35:43 06/19/12 Really??? (n/m) - Zski 07:28:46 06/21/12
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